Timeline for Waning gap of acceptable questions
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| Apr 13, 2017 at 12:38 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://english.stackexchange.com/ with https://english.stackexchange.com/
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| Dec 20, 2012 at 20:34 | comment | added | user18036 | I for one would probably be an avid user of this site if it weren't for the way questions are treated. It is extremely off-putting and in my opinion just silly. This is one of the least welcoming places I have visited on the internet (bear in mind that I choose places to visit carefully) and definitely the least welcoming SE site I have visited. | |
| Dec 18, 2012 at 10:15 | comment | added | TecBrat | My experience on EL&U is that there are some who would like this to be an open place for anyone to ask anything about the English Language. There are others that would like this to be a closed place for English professionals (Teachers, Professors, Linguists...) to ask each other questions that only other English professionals can answer. When the site was created, I don't know what the creator(s) had in mind. Perhaps that is the core of the issue. How does one define an English Language Enthusiast? I am opposed to ELL because it would be a bastard site, ignored by those best able to help. | |
| Dec 18, 2012 at 2:08 | comment | added | user31341 | i think the comments you make in the edit put the issue in contrast, and have helped me make up my mind not to support the ELL proposal. i think learners ask the best grammar questions, and i don't want there to be a second-tier site to shunt them off to. | |
| Dec 18, 2012 at 1:09 | answer | added | MetaEd | timeline score: 1 | |
| Dec 12, 2012 at 10:19 | comment | added | SF. | @Kris: I must agree, but what I see is something that really bustles with potential of blooming into a tree being patiently trimmed into a bonsai. | |
| Dec 12, 2012 at 8:59 | comment | added | Kris | "What shape of the site are you trying to create?" So long as someone is "trying to" do something, the site will have no life of its own -- only when member-moderation in its true sense prevails will votes make any organic sense. I am not a mod, I vote regularly as a sacred duty and do it carefully. | |
| Dec 12, 2012 at 4:12 | answer | added | user31341 | timeline score: 3 | |
| Dec 12, 2012 at 1:06 | comment | added | user21497 | "The solution is for [bad questions] not to be asked in the first place" = "The solution for [{wars/crimes/rapes/robberies/murders} is that they] not [occur] in the first place". I love this kind of logic. Yep, it's true, if nobody did anything wrong, then, by god, nothing bad would ever happen, would it? Isn't this an example of swatting at flies and mosquitoes with aeriform hands? Seems to me to have that character. | |
| Dec 11, 2012 at 16:08 | comment | added | Carlos Vieira | I'd like to add that I am yet to see a harsher community than this one. RPG.SE closes a bunch of questions too, but without any of the attitude I see here. | |
| Dec 10, 2012 at 15:28 | answer | added | Jay | timeline score: 6 | |
| Dec 9, 2012 at 16:02 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackEnglish/status/277805318950510592 | ||
| Dec 9, 2012 at 6:33 | comment | added | Ellie K | @Carlo_R. Your command of English seems quite adequate! I review questions on StackOverflow (and here), and I can tell you with certainty that you do not need to be self-deprecating. That being said, I think that we ARE using this site, Meta English SE, effectively. But a beta ELL main site will be useful to some, thus a good idea to have "in the works". | |
| Dec 8, 2012 at 3:08 | answer | added | J.R. | timeline score: 10 | |
| Dec 7, 2012 at 19:14 | comment | added | user19148 | SF., yes, I would have said the same things you said, but I do not have command of English to do that. I completely agree with you and the reasons you have presented. We should encourage people to utilize this site to help other people gain a greater understanding of the challenges faced by non-constructive questions in our community and also to look at the wonderful contributions that high-rep users could made to make EL&U better. But, as the few upvotes to this wonderful question tell us, we are a minority. I hope ELL will be different. | |
| Dec 6, 2012 at 23:58 | answer | added | avpaderno | timeline score: 4 | |
| Dec 6, 2012 at 11:48 | answer | added | Matt E. Эллен | timeline score: 6 | |
| Dec 6, 2012 at 11:04 | comment | added | RegDwigнt Mod | [continued] There are 51200 questions pending closure on SO right now. As a side note, there is no such thing as SO main page; it is different for everyone. What you're looking at is not what I am seeing. Lastly, any number is sort of dishonest if it includes dupes — which is our close reason number one, while Stack Overflow is not anywhere as efficient at hunting down duplicates, due to the sheer volume of questions. Oh, and last I checked, 3% of all our questions were closed as gen-ref. That's right, for every question that gets closed as gen-ref thirty do not. | |
| Dec 6, 2012 at 11:01 | comment | added | RegDwigнt Mod | @SF we should be extra careful about comparisons to SO. The 90 questions on SO represent five minutes. The 50 questions on ELU represent two days. Look at the last five minutes worth of questions on ELU, and you are more than likely to see them all open as well; look at the last two days worth of questions on SO and you'd be surprised how many have close votes or have been deleted. I have helped close 2000+ questions on Stack Overflow in the last two months alone. And I only visit it for about twenty minutes a day. And I could have closed five times as many if I had the votes. | |
| Dec 6, 2012 at 6:32 | history | edited | SF. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Dec 6, 2012 at 6:06 | comment | added | SF. | @tchrist: I don't know about your definition of "pretty" but for me usefulness of this site diminishes month by month, and I really wonder where to turn with questions about English where the cadre would be competent enough to answer correctly and not arrogant enough to keep idiots like me away from soiling their beautiful site with their stupid questions. By the way, nice technique of fighting reopens. | |
| Dec 6, 2012 at 5:53 | comment | added | tchrist Mod | The solution is not to stop closing bad questions. That will only make the site worse. The solution is for them not to be asked in the first place. Meanwhile, I will go try to delete what I can so that you can have a prettier front page. | |
| Dec 6, 2012 at 5:46 | comment | added | SF. | @tchrist: Moderators significantly contribute to the closed pool, but of course they aren't the only "guilty". StackOverflow has a way higher volume, so closes will be more frequent. Meanwhile, out of 90 questions on its main page NONE was [closed] at the time of me writing this. Out of 48 ELU questions 15 were closed at the time of posting this question (plus at least 2 reopened!), 10 currently. | |
| Dec 6, 2012 at 5:02 | comment | added | tchrist Mod | First, most questions are closed not by our elected moderators but by the community at large. But secondly and more importantly, I think you are wrong about “other SE sites” not being “trigger-happy”. Check out recent closed but not yet deleted questions on StackOverflow proper to see what I mean. | |
| Dec 6, 2012 at 3:52 | comment | added | tchrist Mod | Related&maybe dups: meta.english.stackexchange.com/q/1088 meta.english.stackexchange.com/q/3006 meta.english.stackexchange.com/q/2259 meta.english.stackexchange.com/q/2998 meta.english.stackexchange.com/q/69 meta.english.stackexchange.com/q/2160 meta.english.stackexchange.com/q/865 meta.english.stackexchange.com/q/1546 meta.english.stackexchange.com/q/1613 meta.english.stackexchange.com/q/1545 meta.english.stackexchange.com/q/273 meta.english.stackexchange.com/q/3193 meta.english.stackexchange.com/q/1095 | |
| Dec 6, 2012 at 2:36 | history | edited | SF. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Dec 6, 2012 at 2:08 | history | asked | SF. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |