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Yes, we should. (Vote for this answer if you think we should open a migration path to ELL.)


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TLDR: I don’t have a lot of confidence that this will work out, but unless we make the attempt we won’t have the data to support that hunch. Plus until we do so, people will keep asking for it. But before we can, we would have to have some other stuff in place first. Don’t Migrate Crap Here are ELL migration stats: That tell us that right now, almost one in ...


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Everyone's banging on about that one bad question that was migrated. Someone lets their dog crap in my yard and I go out and scoop it. Now I can toss it in the garbage, or I can go leave it on my neighbor's lawn, because he has to clean up after the dog walkers sometimes too. It seems stupid to try justify dropping that crap on my neighbor's yard because ...


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I migrated that question in response to an explicit flag on it from a serious contributor to the Linguistics SE site specifically asking for the question to be migrated over to Linguistics. Being myself no more than at best an infrequent contributor to the Linguistics site, and seeing as how the flagger was more than that, I took that flagger up on their ...


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Please do not simply ask the same question again. It's already been judged as off-topic and better suited to a different site (where comments indicate it's been reasonably well-received). If you specifically want to ask about the English language, that could be on-topic here; but I would suggest that you wait until you have a general answer upon which to ...


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As I commented (just before this Meta question appeared) on the question in both places, This question asks about domain-specific language and is more suited to a domain-specific SE site, since there is one. I've adjusted it to make it even more fitted there (and probably should have edited it there rather than on ELU -- sorry about that). The question ...


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To be brief, the questions which are usually tagged as being better suited to ELL are not necessarily off-topic. I think a much more common reason for closing or suggesting that many of them be migrated to ELL is because they are considered basic English grammar questions; which until very recently were swept under the general reference rug. Is it therefore ...


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As a regular user of ELL I would request that migrations to ELL continue to be handled by the moderators of ELU. SE is, in general, very reluctant to create migration paths because they tend to be abused. When should we consider adding a default migration path? Almost never. Truth is, migrations are not often particularly necessary. It's ...


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tl,dr: An incubation period of several weeks wouldn’t work out very well because the original asker wouldn’t get a timely answer. Migratory Mechanics Questions immigrate to another site when four out of five non-binding close votes are for that particular migration. In the normal course of things, this is perceived to occur “immediately”, but what really ...


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status-completed As of 22 September 2015, we do have this capability, courtesy of The Powers Who Do That Sort Of Thing. As WendiKidd has implied in her answer, there are risks and potential difficulties. Use with care! I'm sure there will be statistics gathered and pored over to see how many questions migrated from here are closed on ELL. Learners' questions ...


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English proper names follow most of the same rules and customs as other English words, and they're subject to the same evolutionary forces. They’re clearly different from names in other languages: John Paul II is distinctly English whereas Ioannes Paulus II and Jan Paweł II are not. They follow English rules for inflection and combination, such that we can ...


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tl,dr: Making ELL a migration target for non-moderators risks making matters worse, not better. There is great confusion about what makes a question suitable for migration. The main problem here is not the betaness one. That’s a red herring. Rather, the real reason the migration list is always a very a short list on all SE sites is because users, even ...


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I personally try to whip questions that might be well received on ELL into shape by editing the post; fixing typos, tags, and maybe even their titles. If we all did something to make an ELL candidate question at least look presentable that would help enormously. Proofreading questions should never be migrated. Bad questions or questions whose answers can ...


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An important criterion for community migration paths is the level of migration that occurs already by moderator action. There's no "right" level for establishing a migration path, but tens or hundreds of migrations with a single digit rejection rate seems safe. Single digit migrations in the last 90 days and/or rejection rates that can order a drink ...


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Your question concerned how writers refrain from referring to themselves as “I” when writing (say) an academic paper. The question was brought to the attention of moderators as being off-topic on ELU and more on-topic on Writers. The moderators of both sites agreed, and it was migrated. ELU’s on-topic subjects include Word choice and usage Grammar ...


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To address the comment question: A comment was flagged as not constructive. I deleted it. That left your comment in response hanging there, with its target gone, so I deleted that one too. I deleted my comments on the migrated question, because one was obsolete (explaining that I was migrating the question), the other was a comment that attempts to answer ...


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Questions should be posted on, or moved to, the site where they are most appropriate. If a question has been posted but it would be more appropriate on another site, it can be migrated. This is subject to the "Don't migrate crap" rule. Poor questions on the wrong site should simply be closed. There is a grey area where a question is entirely appropriate on ...


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Wow. I searched Google in search of a word and after several variations of my search, I landed on this site. Thus, I was not aware there was another site. My suggestion is that you word this phrase so that it does not make a newcomer feel as if they violated a policy. Your current statement is courteous but there is a lot to learn to take full advantage ...


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When I vote to migrate, I am, quite literally, posting a new question on the new site. I have a duty to meet a site's posting guidelines whenever I post to it. Therefore I vote to migrate ONLY when I am reasonably sure the question meets the new site's posting guidelines and will stay open on the new site. To put it another way, there's no point in ...


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Here are the important parts of the timeline: You asked the question on Signal Processing. You got an answer there. You left the following comment on said answer: [...] If you think there is no word for this, I think this question is better suited in English Language & Usage Peter K., a moderator on Signal Processing, migrated the question to ELU. (...


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I don't disagree with your main point so this is mostly rambling thoughts on finding an appropriate solution to a few issues. Are basic English usage questions on-topic? EL&U needs to decide whether we want questions are simple, basic usage questions. Right now the community seems to be closing most of these as off-topic. I am assuming that this is ...


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Maybe. I think many questions asked here should be asked there instead. However, the user base here doesn't fully overlap with the user base there and it can be difficult to judge if a question should be migrated. In my ideal world, users with high-rep accounts on both sites would be the ones who perform the migration.


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If a question is closed here, it is generally because it does not meet our quality guidelines. (See What Types of Questions should I Avoid Asking.) If it is a decent question that meets the guidelines for ELL (see Details, Please), then the people who are voting to close it can and should be selecting "This question should be closed because it belongs on ...


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The question, as asked, provided no context and no explanation for why the asker was asking, and we can thus only conclude that they are asking for the meaning of a phrase of the form "give someone X", which IMHO is definitely too basic to be asking here. The OP mentioned, in passing, having done a Google search, but I find it incredible that a search for "...


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The real distinction between ELU and ELL isn't really the questions (easy vs hard) - it's the type of answers you're looking for. The respective tours say that ELL is for "speakers of other languages learning English" while ELU is for "linguists, etymologists, and serious English language enthusiasts". In theory, you join the community that better describes ...


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This has been regularly discussed here over the years (e.g. here); the difference now is that, with Writers out of Beta, it is a practical possibility. You will need to persuade the moderators here that we receive enough questions that are off-topic here but would be on-topic at Writers.SE to justify the work of setting up a migration path; you would also ...


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I migrated it because it was from someone who is trying to learn English, and didn’t understand a would-be “rule” they were presented with.


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My reasoning for not migrating is as you have stated. Mods are advised against migrating questions that are on topic where they currently are and have positively received answers. (Moderators can see this help article on migration, point 1. For some reason SE think the details need to be kept secret.) Thanks to ColleenV for pointing out this meta meta post. ...


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I would not feel good about migrating these. To me, it seems like "stealing" good questions from a smaller, newer site. Cross-posting questions, I'm not sure about. You say There are probably similar questions to these already on ELU, but I feel that the sources cited in these particular questions (in the answers and the comments) would be very ...


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Migration paths can only be set up by the Community Mod team, and a site is only allowed to have 4. Every site can migrate between the main site and its meta site. The other paths are harder to get set up and require demonstrating that there are many questions getting asked that are migration candidates. For the occasional migration, community members should ...


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