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Replacing our "research" close reason: Completed

There are two distinct, although related, questions here: (1) Is the show-research reason for closing used too much, and, if so, how should its use be limited; (2) Should that reason (perhaps narrowed ...
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Replacing our "research" close reason: Completed

Dictionaries don't necessarily answer super basic grammar questions, so the new close-reason wouldn't easily apply to those types of 'too-easy' questions. Are we just going to migrate all of those? ...
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What resources do I need to consult before asking a question?

Asking questions Many questions can be easily answered by searching for a word, phrase, or idiom in a free online dictionary. Meaning, pronunciation, and even some grammar questions (such as which ...
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Replacing our "research" close reason: Completed

I created What resources do I need to consult before asking a question? and while that might not be the final revision of that post, I think it's good enough to move forward with the rest of this. ...
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Replacing our "research" close reason: Completed

As my name was invoked regarding drafting text for the close modal and post notices, I thought I might offer some guidance in addition to what y'all have already discussed. What's presented below is ...
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Does the community think that we need a 'grammar, but too basic for ELU: almost any book on grammar will answer this clearly' close-vote reason?

As I understand it, the mods intentionally switched to the new "answered by a dictionary" close reason to prevent "easy" questions about grammar from getting closed. See the thread ...
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Does the community think that we need a 'grammar, but too basic for ELU: almost any book on grammar will answer this clearly' close-vote reason?

That the answerable-by-a-dictionary reason for closing does not cover even the most basic matters of grammar was pointed out by Heartspring less than an hour after Laurel first proposed its ...
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Has the insufficient research close reason been retired?

There are lots of high rep users who disagree with closing these questions. They have the right to disagree and also to answer them if they wish. But shouldn't the mods be modeling the site ...
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Replacing our "research" close reason: Completed

I wholeheartedly support this observation and the proposed change. It should be noted that this is very close to how that very closing-reason was originally devised here, as General Reference. ...
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Replacing our "research" close reason: Completed

I also wholeheartedly support this change. I think that the high closure rates can make ELU appear hostile or unhelpful for new users. "Difficulty" per se is a completely arbitrary and ...
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Replacing our "research" close reason: Completed

In one of your suggested CV reasons (I guess it would be "usage guidance"?), you included this text: Make sure a link to that dictionary has been provided in the comments before closing. I ...
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How does the current version of the "cyan" pronunciation question not show research?

The timeline available to moderators shows that the question was closed with five votes, then you edited it and it was reopened with five votes. It's now had five different people vote to close again, ...
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Does the community think that we need a 'grammar, but too basic for ELU: almost any book on grammar will answer this clearly' close-vote reason?

No, such a close reason should not exist. Beginner grammar books can be wrong Even with simple grammar questions, the idea that "almost any book on grammar will answer this clearly" is ...
herisson's user avatar
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Has the insufficient research close reason been retired?

The close-reason "more research required" is meant to be a means of closing questions that require more research to be useful and interesting questions. When users ask questions that are self-...
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Replace "Please show the research you've done" with a clear threshold requirement

I agree with most of what @Tonepoet said, but I would like to try a simpler answer. Anything more complicated than a "clear threshold limit" of non-zero will be too complicated to define and ...
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Why are etymology questions that show research getting/staying closed?

TL;DR Etymology questions are no different from any other on-topic question. If they show no effort and no research, they should be placed on hold until the OP, or someone else, fixes/improves their ...
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Replacing our "research" close reason: Completed

This is a welcome change! It is very important, nonetheless, that it is not only expressly understood but also expressly stated that dictionaries are not authorities on grammatical information, and ...
Araucaria - Him's user avatar
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Has anything changed regarding voting to close for lack of research?

Well, ain’t this a turn. Nothing on the site has changed; but maybe I have. I am usually being called to task as an overly enthusiastic VTCer. I am the original commenter quoted from that post, ...
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Does the community think that we need a 'grammar, but too basic for ELU: almost any book on grammar will answer this clearly' close-vote reason?

In theory, by the time someone has earned the privilege to cast a close vote, they are aware of what is generally on-topic or off-topic for the community. If someone believes a question is off-topic, ...
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Replacing our "research" close reason: Completed

“However, that doesn't change the fact that there's real damage being done. And we need to fix it.” I find it unsatisfactory that the nature of this “real damage” is not explained. It is certainly ...
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Has anything changed regarding voting to close for lack of research?

I agree in principe with Casabel's answer around this quote from the help center: With your help, we're working together to build a library of detailed answers to every question about English ...
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Why are etymology questions that show research getting/staying closed?

Here are some thoughts I have on the matter: The probable reason One thing that needs to be considered is that it takes time for things to be processed through the review queue, and even if a ...
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Has the insufficient research close reason been retired?

While I generally agree with Araucaria's opinion that a certain leeway is necessary in judging the required research for a question I do think that any research effort should go past this: I've ...
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