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comment Please vote on this proposal to ban from question titles certain words whose posts we usually end up closing and deleting
@Araucaria Right now I'm just looking for community buy-in to the idea, not the details. The details have to be worked out with the community management team. The way this works is that depending on the input text, you produce a red popup explaining to folks what they should do to make it acceptable. I actually did a lot of fancy hand-rolled N-gram analysis for the most common trigrams following "which is" or "which one is", but simply either of those plus any of the "correct", "gramma*", or "right" words following is like the kiss of death. "Which is correct" can die five years ago already.
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awarded  feature-request
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comment Please vote on this proposal to ban from question titles certain words whose posts we usually end up closing and deleting
That really depends on the timeframe you look at but overall since the site began we have a failure rate of 53.17%, with 60,707 deleted questions, 28,561 closed but not deleted questions, and 78,613 questions that are neither closed nor deleted.
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awarded  Nice Question
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comment Please vote on this proposal to ban from question titles certain words whose posts we usually end up closing and deleting
@curiousdannii "Natural" has a 64% failure rate with 100 open and 175 closed or deleted. "Standard" is at 35% with 115 open and 61 not so.
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comment Please vote on this proposal to ban from question titles certain words whose posts we usually end up closing and deleting
The data distribution by user reputation would require fancy SQL work in the employee-only version of the Stack Exchange Data Explorer. That's because the regular SEDE doesn't have access to specifics like that about deleted questions. I didn’t use SEDE to gather these data because I needed to include deleted questions (for example: deleted:all, deleted:1, deleted:0), which you can do at 10k for your own questions or as a diamond moderator for all questions. But the rest of that is only in the employee-only SEDE that only devs and CMs can use.
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comment Please vote on this proposal to ban from question titles certain words whose posts we usually end up closing and deleting
Another privilege level that might be worth considering as a filter is the Close/Reopen-Vote privilege that kicks in at 3,000. I say this because such users are more familiar with our various criteria for closing questions, and thus one could hope they’d not to ask those.
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comment Please vote on this proposal to ban from question titles certain words whose posts we usually end up closing and deleting
@marcellothearcane No, none of this affects question closure per se. You just can't pose new questions or edit old ones leaving the banlist words in there.
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comment Please vote on this proposal to ban from question titles certain words whose posts we usually end up closing and deleting
@marcellothearcane I was just presenting different views of the data in case it helped get a better idea of what was going on with the different combos.
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comment Please vote on this proposal to ban from question titles certain words whose posts we usually end up closing and deleting
@marcellothearcane I'm pretty sure that 95% bad, 5% good is far beyond the reasonable mark. Remember Stack Overflow pulled the trigger at 20% bad and 80% good. I'm proposing a cutoff more like 50%, and I think even that is too timid. It's not like we couldn't exempt askers/editors with the Trusted User or perhaps even the Established User privilege. Plus like I said, we DO have various existing escape valves that allow the experienced or determined and resourceful asker to trivially bybass these bans. Those folks aren’t the ones getting their questions closed and deleted.
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comment Please vote on this proposal to ban from question titles certain words whose posts we usually end up closing and deleting
Just as with the CJK ban currently in place, it’s actually easy to get around any title ban PROVIDED that you know the simple trick that bypasses that ban. The goal here is very most certainly not to stop legitimate questions. The goal is to stop any newly arriving questions like the ten thousand odd currently closed or deleted questions from ever wasting our precious time with one or another variant of "Is this grammaticically correct". No more. The site is not maintainable as it now stands, and it is getting nothing but worse.
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comment Please vote on this proposal to ban from question titles certain words whose posts we usually end up closing and deleting
You raise a good point. I'd like to pursue that point a little. Keeping in mind that Stack Overflow implemented its titular ban :) on problem when 20% of those questions got closed or deleted, what precise metric do you exactly have in mind for us here? Just because it is possible to construct a viable question containing the words grammatically correct in its title, if we're closing most of those, why should we continue to put up with all the trouble this causes us?
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comment Please vote on this proposal to ban from question titles certain words whose posts we usually end up closing and deleting
@marcellothearcane I will issue a separate proposal for removing and banning the grammar tag. It's as meaningless here as language would be. The problem this proposal aims to fix is the unending pile of offal that are useless proofreading of the "is this/which one is grammaticophobically correctissimo so my ESFLIETS teechur dont mark my test wronged" yes-no sort that will never help anyone else. Basically lazy GIMME DA CODEZ demands, not real questions.
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comment Please vote on this proposal to ban from question titles certain words whose posts we usually end up closing and deleting
@marcellothearcane Oh drat I hand added those and flipped the columns. This is why you always need a totals line. Will fix once back from hike.
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answered Please vote on this proposal to ban from question titles certain words whose posts we usually end up closing and deleting
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answered Please vote on this proposal to ban from question titles certain words whose posts we usually end up closing and deleting